[–]Plazmatic 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). No schools around offer a software engineer degree it is just a work title. Senior engineers and principal engineers are the highest-ranking engineers. Do you mean embedded versus Web programming or versus GUI programming? But, for now there isn't much demand for them versus software devs. The emphasis here is less on theory, but more on learning skills that'll help you build something robustly and effectively. I spend a lot of time dealing with, and inferring, the state of bits, flops, registers and buses. You must be smart. Hell AST just retired and he literally wrote the book on OSes and a few on networking. There's 8K of RAM (and 256k of flash), so I count the cost of all memory used. Computer science is definitely science. A: A software engineer designs and creates engineering specifications for software programs based on a broad knowledge of information systems. In many cases, the different titles are interchangeable. This is a subreddit for learning programming, not a "critique my project" or "advertise my project" subreddit. On that note, make sure you look up the professors if you have a choice. Software Architect: Tools: The software engineer is who create the tools to develop software example visual studio, eclipse. Mine had it in the same department as math and physics, as CS. You may not ask for or offer payment of any kind (monetary or otherwise) when giving or receiving help. I wasted a lot of time and money on this degree since most of the stuff I learned I will never use. It's strange to see and a little tough to grasp, but i know a lot of EE that are struggling to get a job because companies don't know this simple difference. Indeed, his motivation to change career was borne from frustration with the process of software … Microsoft's system starts at 59 for a software development engineer … Computer Engineering: Do you want a degree in mathematics, electronics, and learn how to build a cpu and other components along with machine level software development? Actually a little bit of all three, and it all depends on what your goals are. When working on a problem, try solving it on your own first and ask for help on specific parts you're stuck with. Systems Engineer : Developer. This includes piracy: asking for or posting links to pirated material is strictly forbidden and can result in an instant and permanent ban. Dice Marlborough, MA. So choose a concentration that appeals to you. Wait, how many theology classes did you take? If youre in a big tech area it wont be much of an issue. I only know C, C++, Java, and Assembly though. [–]testarossa5000 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children). [–]lee714 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (9 children). Computer Engineering is maybe more like physics. Are you going straight to work, working while hitting an MS, or going straight crazy and going for a PhD? The University wanted us to goto the College of Arts and Sciences, but that would have cut out funding even more and we would have lost credibility, because my University's College of Technology is apparently a pile of garbage. Computer Science is like materials science. Focuses a bit more on theory and the core concepts behind making a computer do something. depends how good/dedicated you are at what you do....skys the limit, bro. I wish you the best in whatever path you choose. They work with a lot of lower level languages that are close with parts of hardware, after all, their focus is how the hardware is programmed. Hello everyone! Guys working on bare bones 16 and 32 bit MCUs. The IT with software development guy should learn some management too so he has something extra to offer and can get promoted on that track eventually. You're discovering new ways to make better "beams" (data structures, algorithms, etc). Developer Image via Shutterstock. Java has almost no place in electrical engineering. I was really wary at first as I did not want a watered down "IT degree". Computer Support Technicians: Job Description … Hence, these Computer Programs then become IT Solutions bound to make business organizations more productive in their day-to-day operations. Most people fall into programming. It may be a somewhat inelegant metaphor, but I've found it works: Software engineering is like architecture. [–]Codethulhu 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), CLRS is a very popular algorithms book linked commonly on reddit, might want to check it out if you're in the market for one. Software engineers might also determine what development methodology to use after documenting software requirements. [–]boredcircuits 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (7 children), Computer Science: studying how to compute Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. I'm in CS (first year) and was told out of all three we make the least (I really don't care how much I make as long as I enjoy it) so was just wondering if that's how the "pay/rating hierarchy" was. He was really sad but had lots of $100 bills to wipe his tears with. If you're trying to find algorithms that make compilers more efficient, it's probably Computer Science. Be prepared to sign up a day ahead to use the bench and transfer your files over via a flash-writer. One of them is a good friend that got addicted to cocaine, that was supplied by his employer so that his developers could meet their delivery goals. But it is extremely valuable to know how computers work on a low-level. Software engineers are well-paid, and are often considered to be in possession of one of the most desirable jobs on the market – that doesn’t mean it’s for everyone! In my latest project, I'm building the game Chess from scratch with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. However, the silicon chipset paradigm is pretty much at it's exponential peak. [–]s1nequan0n 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (5 children). Do not ask for help doing anything illegal or unethical. See our policies on allowed topics for more details. Visit PayScale to research systems engineer salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more. Yeah just grab them and check them out, algorithms is the title of a book. For those who want more precision in the usage of these terms, then I would use the following: The tester is someone who tests, typically but not always a test engineer… I also personally think that learning about software engineering is something which you can easily learn in your spare time and during internships/jobs, whereas learning about math and theory is harder, especially without a competent teacher guiding you along the way. A fellow students' cousin from Ireland came to visit us in the US at my high school and he said getting into college is reserved only for the intelligent. If you'd like to avoid as much Math as I do (but pretty much we'd come across them while programming anyway), you could choose this path. A subreddit for those with questions about working in the tech industry or in a computer-science-related job. When posting some resource or tutorial you've made, you must follow our self-promotion policies. I think that in terms of employment, there'll be essentially no difference between the two degrees. Computer engineering is similar to Computer Science, but is focused a bit more on hardware and low-level system details -- you can think of computer engineering as a mixture of electrical engineering and computer science. After our group graduated they renamed the course to IT & CS, also changed some of the subjects. It's all on torrent sites, or just Google a title and PDF. This includes actual hardware of computers, like processors, circuits, boards, embedded systems, etc. [–]ftanuki 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). In practice there really isn't too much difference between the three. [–]403Flip 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (16 children). Questions that straddle the line between learning programming and learning other tech topics are ok: we don't expect beginners to know how exactly to categorize their question. This is not true by a long margin. Many other schools have computer science in the engineering school, which makes a lot of sense given that working with computers is more about engineering (problem solving) than science (theory, experimentation), though I won't say that it has nothing to do with science. Most of the usual good-programming abstractions still work, though; avail yourself of them. I think I've got a few hundred in my TAoCP set and I got that before the last volume came out what, 10 years ago? The more math you know the easier school will be, and the less you'll have to worry about it later. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). I compared it with the coursework in CS programs at other universities and it's pretty much the same depending on your elective choices. The point is, the degree doesn't really mean much beyond proving you can learn. Exactly, I did IT (they renamed the course to CS & IT ) and this is what I studied. I feel like CS majors lean more towards SE over time, because they will have more experience and know what is the best approach to certain designs. Software Engineering makes the requirements clear so that the development will be easier to proceed. It's a balance of both worlds, to be honest. You may find that someone has chosen to go with a very strange chipset that requires careful poking of bytes otherwise everything gets locked up. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Are there any resources people would recomend? Do not request reviews for, promote, or showcase some app or website you've written. Apple has five levels for engineers, from ICT2 up to ICT6. I'm surprised that they combine arts and sciences. [–]lieutenantjuno 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). Your post should not "feel spammy". It should cover a lot of theory. The emphasis tends to be on understanding data structures, algorithms, programming languages, etc. (maybe Scientific Computation or Algorithms & Complexity Theory), [–]PZ-01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Computer science with a focus on information assurance. Our CS program was in the College of Arts and Sciences and all the other computer related degrees (except the art related ones) were in the College of Technology. One interesting thing to note is that computer science doesn't necessarily have anything to do with computers, and in fact was a field of study before computers even really existed! MIS really focused on the operations and project management side of it. I am a senior software engineer and have barely any soft skills. So most still ask for electrical. I think this answer is a bit biased against software engineers in that you focus so much on the difference being "soft skills". Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. Software Engineer: Software engineers (SEs), also called software developers, work closely with clients to plan and create software systems. If you're working on a compiler, are you doing Computer Science, Software Engineering, or Computer Engineering? I would say that software engineering is the practical application of computer science. Software Engineer creates the tools to develop software while Software … Personally, I think the math and theory aspects of a CS degree is the most fascinating part, since it empowers you to know how to tackle and solve increasingly fascinating and complex problems. In this post, I want to contrast the terms with which other people and we ourselves call us. Software Engineer is a team activity while Software Developer is primarily a solitary activity. As a former embedded engineer who is now a network engineer, embedded software positions are a lot harder to find than more generic software jobs, and it can be kind of tricky to move from one to the other. We also don't have a software engineering degree -- the expectation is that students learn about software engineering through their normal coursework + through internships. Well, shit, the question was already answered and no one had mentioned the catch phrase. Sorry, are you saying I should get TAOCP, ISCP, and Algorithms (Any book in general) to read? [–]PZ-01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). [–]lee714 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–]thewebsiteisdown 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (6 children). [–]Incursus 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child). Where I went to school CS majors did not take any calculus or physics with calculus classes so if they applied to a position at the government base near the University they would be turned down cause a requirement to work there is having a degree with calculus. Do not link to some intermediary page that contains mostly only a link to the actual page and no additional value. He works for a NASA contractor now, and I assume he makes a decent amount of money. Basically, I'm a software guy, through and through, so it was very frustrating to me to have to learn about electricity and low-level hardware when I really wanted to be learning more programming languages and software engineering practices. Software Engineering is a bit different from CE and CS, but I feel like it is the most practical in the real world if you want to be a developer. This was actually on purpose. My university is also a bit backwards in that the computer science major is actually part of the arts and sciences school instead of the engineering school. This is rather obvious once you get to algorithms and sorting. You can get more hardware jobs with computer engineering, but that's really the only difference there. Probably the most accessible, it comes in different flavors like C, Python, and more. To elaborate, software engineers work on developing and building web and mobile apps, operating systems and software to be used by organizations. So if I'd have to chose, I'd much rather try and learn software engineering by myself then computer science. This is pretty much right. Some time in CS made me realize it can get very theoretical and the math is VERY present. Software engineering provides soft skills that appeal to managment, you could be making more money that route. This is the world of the embedded programmer. You will make as much as your skills and drive to continue learning allows you. You don't get to use the newest and latest compilers. Even though I am going down the embedded systems route, I also quite enjoy programming GUIs and mobile applications with java, so I am also considering looking for a software programming career as well. After all, most good CS programs have a reputation to uphold, so they have a strong interest in making sure their graduates are reasonably prepared for both academia and industry. [–]NeoWasAProgrammer 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). This depends a lot on your area. optimization and code size). They really aren't cost effective these days. I ponder the reset procedure of memories. If the software building aspect of being a system engineer sounds appealing, you may be interested in becoming a computer programmer. Again, you have to be driven to a very specific position. Computer Science is the study of computation, it does not require a computer. In particular, it is not appropriate to offer a reward, bounty, or bribe to try and expedite answers to your question, nor is it appropriate to offer to pay somebody to do your work or homework for you. You may find that you have to do some level of direct memory access. You may find that you spend 3 weeks tracing a bug to a single bit error in the code. It's not really that "mundane and dull", just a different field in the whole picture. A lot of companies (older ones) still do not differentiate or even know about computer engineers. A typical computer science program will end up teaching you a bunch of theoretical and general knowledge about "computation" in general, which qualifies you to tackle and approach genuinely difficult problems. Again, driven by his passion. The research into what you should be doing and whats available falls on YOU, not your parents, friends, or advisor. CE is more like the bridge between EE and CS. I think one reason is that software engineering often has a perception of being "easier" or "softer". That said, embedded work is very different than e.g. There is also a core sequence of enterprise related stuff. Unit testing, or testing in general is rare/more difficult cause you often need an oscope. Press J to jump to the feed. Every time I talk to him I kick myself in the ass for not going this route. [–]testarossa5000 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). It is from a regionally accredited public university. Distinguishing between tasteless and tasteful self-promotion is inherently subjective. Edit-compile-run-debug cycle is loooooong and painful. There are a lot of confusion around the names for our trade. haven't picked up a copy yet myself, [–]mrussell48 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). At Google, for example, entry-level engineers start at Level 3. We have logic probes for that" is not unusual to hear. [–]jbkrule 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). What to learn to start creative frontend development in 2021. They typically work with QA and hardware engineers to develop testing plans. I never intend to become a manager. See our policies on acceptable speech and conduct for more details. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children). When should you give up on your solution and search? Site reliability engineering (SRE) is a discipline that incorporates aspects of software engineering and applies them to infrastructure and operations problems. If we do come closer to the limit—or I miss C++11 too much—we may have to buy the "professional" edition or look into using GCC tools (which are fairly well supported by Nordic, the chip makers, although I've heard the ARM tools do a significantly better job w.r.t. If your goal is to create a product for someone to use, it's probably Software Engineering. My school also does not have software engineering. Simply put, a Data Engineer's bread and butter is queries, while a Software Engineer is someone that builds systems … [–]Solvoid 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). Do not include a link to a final product or to a demo in your post. That sounds like a lot to me, considering you poor bastards are paying that for one xeroxed book for one class these days. Today I reversed a Linked List without looking anything up. [–]403Flip 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–]louky 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (4 children). I have never used anything I learned in the higher mathematics courses, and outside of a little soldering never used anything learned in electronics, in my career. [–]oneonetwooneonetwo 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). That's what separates it from software engineering. Software Developer = Programmer = Coder, all of which center on programming, but can widen out to encompass the other aspects of software engineering. I'm a Software Engineering major. If you end up doing true CS work, like scientific research into the theory of computing, then yeah you're likely to make less money, but if you use it to program for a company, there's no effective difference. By driven to a specific position do you mean to a certain concentration? TLDR: Software Engineer vs. If you like it, buy it later when you can afford it. Disagreement and technical critiques are ok, but personal attacks are not. A couple of the guys on my development team have cs degrees, a couple have software engineering degrees, and a couple even have electrical engineering degrees. [–]testarossa5000 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children), [+]crow1170 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (2 children). [–]brwtx 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). Should I be at an advantage or disadvantage when applying for developer positions, having a Computer Science degree instead? "Debugging, what's that? Thereafter, test cases are conducted to compensate the implementation phase and maintenance. If you like mathematics and are interested in computers, then CS is for you. Hidden targeted advice taken...I definitely appreciate that. Well he said "embedded systems" which isnt all software. Asking for code reviews is ok as long as you follow the relevant policies. This means a CE major will have the basic foundation of a CS major, but as the degree progresses you will branch off to different areas of focus. Developer The Basics: Software Engineer vs. They all make a lot more than I do and constantly get harassed by recruiters who want to pay them a lot of money. I hope I cleared some misunderstanding and enlightened someone to feel excited about Software Engineering. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). Abusive, racist, or derogatory comments are absolutely not tolerated. When in doubt, message the mods and ask them to review your post. Self promotion from first time posters without prior participation in the subreddit is explicitly forbidden. Software engineering applies the standards and principles of engineering to design, develop, maintain, test and evaluate computer software. As in the CE will be paid more than the SE and the CS makes the lowest? But he will look at the computer science guy as someone who can do all that, plus come up with his own algorithms for problem solving, he will know how things work behind the scenes and will be able to spot potential performance issues, and he will probably be able to write more efficient code. I set up SCons to do command-line build/install/deployment and I use my usual editor, Source Insight, and I'm happy with that setup. Computer Engineering involves significant amounts of programming, but tends to be lower level (drivers, embedded programming, compilers, operating systems, etc) while Software Engineering usually involves software users interact with. They were often electrical engineers who not only understood how the low-level hardware worked; they could also write assembly language or C code at that low-level to get the system … Compared to the awesome things learning about math and CS theory will let you do, learning about software engineering seems sort of mundane and dull in comparison. Be prepared to work with custom-branded eclipse-clones that don't quite work right and might or might not be sold for thousands of $$ per seat with a GPL license, or only work on that 1 version of Windows from 5+ years ago. Computer Science is really "pure", kind of like math. Essentially, if you can get a job with one of them, you can get the same job with the other two because there is tons of overlap. I went to school for CE I work with people that went for applied math and CS we all have the work title of Software Engineers. Otherwise, take an engineering major. My course was called IT, but it focused heavily on Software Development and CS stuff (Maths, Algorithms, RTS, 3D graphics). While this is great to know, if I wanted a business degree, I would have double majored. Here is my very subjective opinion on the … You may find that because of this, your source control and compiler development system is different. are the technicians. Just realized you didn't ask this related to college majors specifically, but if it hopefully some of this helps. Whatever your textbooks are, flip through TAOCP, SICP, and Algorithms. They're available from you know where and cover much of it. I generally consider embedded development a subset of electrical engineering. Is there a difference between a software engineer vs software developer? [–]louky 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Our IT with software guys just run network lines, maintain the network, upgrade the switches and software and if we have a request for a piece of software that is open source they know just enough to scan the code and determine if there will be any security threats to the network. [–]thewebsiteisdown 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (4 children). Great post, TIL I didn't really know the difference between a computer scientist and a software engineer! This degree is basically CS with your emphasis chosen ahead of time in SE. How do creating games with the language C++ work? From what I understand , it's basically like CS is on one side, MIS is on the other, and IT is somewhere in the middle, in terms of technical to soft skills. Computer Engineering might be the most varied of the three, and overlaps significantly with Software Engineering. So what would be the most suited role for someone looking to get into Digital Forensics or Security or something like that? Or that you're trying to do too much at interrupt priority and have to schedule it for later (ideally you should do as little as possible there anyway, and set a flag or schedule a later callback). [–]michael0x2a 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child). All the programmers at my work are considered Software Engineers and we have people with degress in CE, EE, CS, and applied mathematics. Anyway, sounds like you've gotten an excellent degree, that qualifies you for any number of jobs. This is exactly right. They both need to have the same training and significant work experience, such as 15 years. Information Systems graduate here! There's plenty of info on Reddit alone. Oh, hell. [–]joequin 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). Well other than video game programmers, they are all overworked and underpaid, but that's neither here nor there. The types of classes you'll be taking really give you the idea of what you'll be learning (and I'm sure school's differ in the classes for each major). The posts here pretty much explain it all. What you do with your degree is what determines your income. See our guidelines on offering help for more details. Ireland. Software Engineering is more of a jack-of-all-trades-but-master-of-none in an impression that we know a bit of how firms work (in terms of their business processes) and a bit of how computer programs would help improve on that - either by creating a new opportunity or tackling an unforeseen problem. We call this Systems Development Life Cycle (SDLC) where activities involve Planning, Analyzing, Designing, Implementing, and Maintaining. I wonder about various types of race conditions and ordering rules on a bus. and join one of thousands of communities. Your grades and education are being paid by someone, treat it like the huge purchase it is. 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